New iPad mini and iPhone Mirroring on Mac – Intego Mac Podcast Episode 366
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Kirk McElhearn
Apple’s latest iPad mini refresh leaves some critics wanting more. If Apple plans a product event in the near future, what will get updated and what won’t? And we’ve got some tips on using Apple’s new iPhone Mirroring feature.
- iPad mini (A17)
- Which iPad Is Best for You in 2024?
- Which Apple Pencil works with my iPad?
- iPhone had best ever Q3 for Apple, nearly topped Samsung globally per report
- USB-C and Thunderbolt: Understanding Ports and Cables for Macs, iPhones, and iPads
- Apple Slowly Moves Away From Its Annual Product Release Strategy
- How to Use iPhone Mirroring and iPhone Notifications on Mac, and Why You Should
- Broken Mirror: iPhone Mirroring at Work May Expose Employees’ Personal Information
- Meet the all-new Kindle family, including the first colour Kindle
- Porch Pirates Are Stealing AT&T iPhones Delivered by FedEx
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Transcript of Intego Mac Podcast episode 366
Voice Over 0:00
This is the Intego Mac podcast—the voice of Mac security for Thursday, , October 17, 2024. This week’s Intego Mac podcast headlines include: Apple’s latest iPad mini refresh leaves some critics wanting more. If Apple plans a product event in the near future, what will get updated and what won’t? And we’ve got some tips on using Apple’s new iPhone Mirroring feature. Now, here are the hosts of the Intego Mac Podcast. Veteran Mac journalist, Kirk McElhearn. And Intego’s. Chief Security Analyst, Josh Long.
Kirk McElhearn 0:41
Good morning. Josh, how are you today?
Josh Long 0:44
I’m doing well. How are you, Kirk?
Apple unveils an updated iPad mini
Kirk McElhearn 0:45
I’m doing just fine. We have such exciting news this week. This is something that’s totally unexpected, that Apple updated the iPad Mini that was almost exactly the same as the previous iPad Mini, and the only real change they made is a different processor.
Josh Long 1:01
Yeah, it’s so similar that people are complaining that it has the same desktop pAT&Tern, like it’s it’s the same. It looks the same. It’s still got that same, like, stylized word mini on on the images that they’re using for the product. And it’s like, really, that’s the thing that people are focused on. But, okay, anyway, the the thing that I think is actually really interesting about this is that, yes, they finally updated the iPad Mini hurrah Bravo Apple for finally doing that right like this was the one to three years after three years, this was the iPad that really desperately still needed an update, because the entire rest of The iPad product line has been updated now and is was able to run Apple intelligence. That’s really the key feature here. And the reason why they were kind of, I feel like forced to upgrade the iPad Mini, because here we are, supposedly this month is when we’re starting to get Apple intelligence features rolling out very soon. And so it would have been really awkward if Apple were still selling an iPad that didn’t get any Apple intelligence features. So now they’ve updated it finally, I think, way too late. But the interesting thing about it is that it’s only an a 17 pro chip, which is the same chip as last year’s iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max, which you might recall, are the very earliest mobile devices that Apple’s selling that will get Apple intelligence. So they didn’t put this year’s chip. They didn’t put an m1 m2 or any of those. They decided to put last year’s iPhone chip in the iPad Mini. So they’re taking a really arguably, like bare bones, like bare minimum requirements for Apple intelligence, and that’s what they decided to stick in the iPad Mini, which I the reason why I think this is interesting is because it makes me a little bit concerned. If I were going to buy an iPad Mini right now, I would be a little concerned about the potential for what happens next year when Apple announces Apple intelligence 2.0 maybe some of those features are not necessarily going to work on the a 17 pro chip That was in the 15 Pro and Pro Max, and that would also potentially include the iPad Mini.
Kirk McElhearn 3:26
Well, my thought is that these large language models are getting smaller and they’re requiring less processing power as they’re being refined. So it might not be an issue going forward. Now, the previous iPad Mini was updated four years earlier, so this is never a device that Apple updates frequently. It might not have a big effect on them. It might be that this is sort of the minimum that we’ll be able to run these things and as they’re optimized in future years, it might not be a problem. Now I thought about, why didn’t they put an m1 at least? It could be that the m1 is too big to put in the iPad Mini, right? They put the m2 and the m4 and they’ve had M ones and threes in the larger iPads before, but maybe there’s not enough room in the iPad Mini to have this chip. Remember the iPad minis? I don’t know. It’s bigger than an iPhone, smaller than an iPad, right? It’s the little bit bigger than a Kindle. It’s not a very big device. I think the biggest disappointment is there’s literally no change to this device other than Wi Fi 6e. Instead of Wi Fi six, it still has USB C because it had USB C before. It’s one of the first iPads to get USB C. In fact, it has the same display. It has touch ID on the power button as the previous model. So it’s really a minor update, and yet, when you go to the Apple website in some countries, it’s iPad Mini. Hello, Apple intelligence. That is what they’re selling. They’re not selling anything else. They’re selling the a 17 pro chip portable powerhouse. And of course, they’re talking about the Apple Pencil Pro that also works now with the iPad Mini. So. Yeah, and four gorgeous colors. I mean, if that’s not going to sell you on an iPad Mini, what will right?
Which Apple Pencil models will work with the new iPad mini?
Josh Long 5:06
And so you updated two articles on the Intego Mac security blog, which iPad is best for you in 2024 and which Apple Pencil works with my iPad. So those articles are fully up to date considering the changes with the new iPad Mini. So tell me more about this Apple Pencil thing. So the new mini works with which pencils exactly?
Kirk McElhearn 5:28
It works with the Apple Pencil Pro, or the Apple Pencil USB C, and I think any iPad that works with the Apple Pencil Pro can also use the Apple Pencil USB C, which is a cheaper one, but which doesn’t have the same features as the Apple Pencil Pro.
Josh Long 5:42
I still think the Apple Pencil product lineup is like way overly complicated, but that’s why we need this article that Kirk wrote. So if you have any other questions about that, definitely check out the article.
Kirk McElhearn 5:54
One of the problems is that they’ve had four different Apple pencils and they still sell them because there are so many people using older iPads who might want an Apple pencil that can only use an older model. And I think going forward, when they come up with the Apple Pencil, Pro two, or pro max or whatever, we’re going to have five that work on different devices. And I think they’re going to keep selling these for years, probably because they sell pretty well. I mean, these probably don’t sell as well as air tags, you know, or other devices, but to me, the Apple Pencil seems to be something that’s a slow burn that people are adapt. I see people talking about it on social media and articles, that people adapt to it and get used to it. I think it’s something that’s Apple’s definitely invested in, because this is a product that they’ve been improving and iterating over the years, and the latest Apple Pencil Pro is quite cool, but Yeah, as long as they have a back catalog of iPads that are still in circulation, they’re going to keep selling the Apple Pencil models that go along with them. So another point to make is that we are pretty sure that there’s going to be an Apple event in late October, apparently, October 28 which would present new Apple products. And maybe there’s so many new Apple products in that event that they don’t have time to talk about the iPad Mini, or maybe the iPad Mini update is so embarrassing they don’t want to include it when they’re talking about like the m4 iMac and the m4 MacBook Pro, etc.
Josh Long 7:18
I’ve also seen some speculation that maybe apple won’t end up having an event this month. I’m more inclined to think that there probably will be an event for the other products, but, you know, time will tell.
Kirk McElhearn 7:30
Well, there’s two things they have to do in this event. First of all, they have to present these new products. Second of all, they have to tell everyone about Apple intelligence, because we’ve been hearing about it for months and it hasn’t been available. Apparently, it’s going to release on November 1. They’ve gone through, I think, seven betas of the dot one operating systems, which are the first with Apple intelligence, which is a lot Apple intelligence has improved across these betas. I’ve used them on several of my devices. So this is going to be the big push where Apple is going to say, Well, now you can buy that iPhone that was built from the ground up for Apple intelligence that we told you about two months ago, because now Apple intelligence is here. So instead of all of this teasing of Apple intelligence coming soon, they really need to do a push on what it is, what you can do with it. And here’s all the devices that can use it. And I kind of expect them to run through every device in the product line that works with Apple intelligence. Okay. In other news, we have an article on nine to five Mac that says iPhone had best ever q3 for Apple, nearly topped Samsung globally per report. Important to notice that this is not Apple’s q3 Apple’s q3 ends in the end of June, because their quarters are skewed. But if you look at calendar quarters, the quarter that ends on the end of October seems to be extremely strong for iPhone sales. I’ve read a lot that they’re selling more iPhone Pro models than standard models. I think it’s just marketing. I think you may have a bunch of people who haven’t updated their phones in a few years, and they see aerospace grade titanium has got three cameras instead of two, and all these things. They don’t notice the little features that you and I were discussing, like promotion and stuff like that, but they see the marquee features that Apple presents, and they say, Well, why not Apple intelligence? That sounds like it’s going to be cool. I also think the majority of these are sold through carriers and not directly to people, and this also skews the way sales can be. Maybe Apple’s trying to give carriers extra bonuses to sell more iPhones. Who knows?
Josh Long 9:31
That’s an interesting point. Yeah, there’s relatively little difference between the 16 and the 16 pro this year, because, you know, they’ve even got that new button, right? Like the base model has that fancy new camera button on the side the camera control. And so, you know, a lot of these things that you would expect to only see on the pro version, also the the new chip, right? I mean, they basically have the same chip. The only difference in the chip from one the base model to the. Pro model is one GPU core, which is, like, such a minor thing, like, it doesn’t really make that much of a difference. So I think for them, for the most part, people would be just fine with a 16. You don’t really need a 16 Pro for most things. Now, if you’re somebody like Kirk and me, you know, it probably makes sense to go with the Pro. Maybe you care about the camera, and it’s worth 200 bucks to you to get the the third camera lens, but there’s really not that much else. There’s there’s the USB. Speed is better if you are really into that, and you back up your iPhone to your Mac, which I imagine that probably not a lot of people do, except you, well, except for me. And by the way, the cable they include in the box is still USB 2.0 speed, which I find totally not—
Kirk McElhearn 10:50
That’s because most people don’t use it if you need a USB cable for backing up something like that, or for transferring data to hard drive or something. I’ll put a link in the show notes to an article where we discuss Thunderbolt cables. Which Thunderbolt is faster, but you will get the faster USB C speed, even if it’s a Thunderbolt cable. In other words, you get the fastest speed the device can do over a Thunderbolt cable.
Josh Long 11:14
I highly recommend this article, by the way, because there’s a little secret. You know, Apple charges a lot of money for its Thunderbolt four cable, but there are some other brands that have really reliable cable that is much cheaper, and frankly, you there’s no reason to not get a thunderbolt four cable from one of these trusted brands. I wouldn’t just buy from any random brand on Amazon, because you never know really what you’re going to get or what the quality is going to be, but if you can get a thunderbolt four cable, it literally does everything, all the speed, all the fast charging, and all those kind of things that you would expect, and it works with your iPhone and everything else.
Kirk McElhearn 11:54
We’re going to put a link in the show notes to an article by Mark Gurman on Bloomberg. It’s his weekly newsletter where he says that Apple slowly moves away from its annual product release strategy, and this week just happens to be the four year anniversary of the HomePod Mini. And when you look at Apple’s products, well, we talked about the Apple Pencil. That’s not updated every year. The HomePods aren’t updated every year. When you think about all the other devices, they haven’t updated AirTags since they’ve been released?
Josh Long 12:21
Well, it’s the AirPods Max, I guess. Just got some new colors, but they didn’t really change the product line, other than that…
Kirk McElhearn 12:27
Exactly. So this is whole segment of Apple stuff that’s on the side. And so the Apple Watch Ultra didn’t get updated. The Ultra two got a new color. I think Apple would do well in not updating everything every year. You kind of expect an iPhone, but iPads don’t get updated every year. The iMac was last updated, I believe, last October, but before that, it was about two and a half years earlier. It was in May. It’s always better for Apple to stagger releases right throughout the year, instead of update things at the all time, instead of updating everything at the same time. Now, Gurman expects there to be a new 14 inch MacBook Pro with m4 14 and 60 inch MacBook Pro with m4 as well. So be m4 Pro or whatever, new Mac Mini, new iMac. I’d be surprised to see an iMac with an m4 when the m3 iMac just came out a year ago, and there’s discussion of this new Mac Mini in a smaller form factor. Another thing they don’t update regularly is the Apple TV. That’s a device that doesn’t need to be updated frequently. I think Apple deserves to have a bunch of things that don’t get updated often.
Josh Long 13:35
I do think that the Apple TV in particular is overdue for an update, especially considering that, remember, we’ve got all these things that you know, Siri and Apple intelligence are going to be heavily integrated with one another, starting this month, but only on devices that can run Apple intelligence. So there’s going to be a little bit of a gap there where you have these devices, like, for example, the HomePod line and also the Apple TV Line that kind of have Siri, but it’s not going to be the full Siri experience. So I really would like to see some of these devices at least. I think the Apple TV is a good candidate for that, like at least put a new enough chip in it that it can do some of the apple intelligence things.
Kirk McElhearn 14:20
It’s true that I never use the Siri remote on my Apple TV, but if I could, say, find me a mystery movie with Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts. And maybe it doesn’t find it, but it makes other suggestions. If it could make AI driven suggestions of things like that, okay, we’re gonna take a break. When we come back, we’re going to talk about how to use iPhone Mirroring, and we’re going to talk about credit card fraud.
Voice Over 14:47
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Credit Card scammers infiltrate American Express’ security features
Kirk McElhearn 16:03
So I had an interesting experience. On Monday, I got a notification from my iPhone on my Mac, because I use iPhone Mirroring, which we’ll go to in a minute, and it was from my American Express app, and it was informing me that a charge was made for a little over six pounds to a company I’ve never heard of who turned out to be in Singapore. I looked up the name of this company, and I looked up scam, and I found a whole bunch of people reporting credit card scams with this company. Now this is a long, complicated story. I won’t go into too much detail, but American Express’s fraud department confirmed to me that this company is responsible for a lot of scams that they’ve figured out a way to get around American Express’s verification system, and I immediately froze my card. I got a new card sent, which I had to freeze as well because it got lost in transit and there were already charges against this is actually kind of complicated, but the point I want to make here is how useful it was to have iPhone Mirroring set up on my Mac so I could get this notification. This was like a, I wouldn’t say it’s a time sensitive notification. It’s not like you have disappointment or something, but seeing it on my Mac instead of maybe later, going back to my iPhone and not paying attention, means that I was able to catch this and block the card immediately. So iPhone Mirroring is a new feature that is in macOS Sequoia. You’ll probably have noticed an icon in the dock after you update it to MacOS Sequoia. And if you hover your cursor over it, it says iPhone Mirroring. And we’ll link to an article on the Intego Mac security blog in the show notes about how to set this up. And when you set this up, it’s like when Apple first announced this, I’m pretty sure on the podcast, this would have been the WWDC in June. I’m pretty sure I said, What’s the point of this? It makes no sense. This is something. They figured they could do it, and so they’ll do it right. It actually turns out to be one of my favorite features in Mac OS Sequoia. You can browse apps, you can click you can switch apps. You can view things, but one of the most useful things is you can get notifications from your iPhone on your Mac, and they show up in Notification Center, like all the other notifications. You may have apps on your Mac and apps on your iPhone that give notifications, but for a lot of us, there are apps on the iPhone that are only there. All of my banking apps are iPhone only, and they all have websites, and logging into these websites is onerous, and you get logged out after 10 minutes, etc. So it’s really useful to have that kind of notification on the desktop, on the Mac. Now iPhone Mirroring does so much more. I mean, you can watch any app. If you want to check something, you can swipe through. You can go back to your home page. You can you can do anything with an app on your Mac’s desktop that you can do on the iPhone. Now, I know Josh is a little skeptical about this. Have you tried it yet, Josh?
What is Apple’s iPhone Mirroring?
Josh Long 18:54
No, I haven’t yet. And you know why? It’s because I always have my iPhone literally right next to me on the desk. So I just pick it up with one hand whenever I get an alert that I want to look at. Okay, no big deal. It’s not like and also, I leave it face up most of the time. So I do have a pro model which has an always on display if I leave it unlocked. In fact, I can just see all the alerts as they come in and I assess whether I want to do something about it. I guess I could see the advantage of having that on my Mac if that alert showed up on my Mac. Instead, I wouldn’t have to glance down at a device. Rather, I could just look on the display in front of me. So I guess that would be a little bit more convenient. But I think overall, I don’t, I don’t really see that much of an advantage to this.
Kirk McElhearn 19:47
Okay, so I never look at my iPhone when it’s on my desk, even though it’s right there on my desk to my right, my iPhone is always silent, so I don’t get any buzzing or anything. The only buzzing I get is for like text messages and phone. Everything else is silenced, and it just seems to be a way of I’m going to put the iPhone aside. Maybe I’ve left it in the other room, and if it’s still close enough to my iMac, it’s still going to give me information. It’s still going to give me notifications about that. I think I’m going to recommend to everyone that you should try this out. It’s a really useful feature. You don’t have to have your iPhone right next to the Mac. It’s, you know, this continuity feature that Apple uses that does all sorts of things like AirDrop and the iCloud clipboard, whatever they call it. It has to be within that distance, about 30 feet. It’s just, I just find it wonderful that if I really need to look at something on my iPhone, why pick up the iPhone when I can do it on my Mac, and you can you can increase the size of the iPhone display on your Mac so it’s even easier to see. I think it’s really good. I recommend that everyone try it out. Now, there are some issues, because a couple of articles have come out saying that you shouldn’t use this on a corporate Mac, because apparently there’s a certain amount of data that can be stored and cached on the Mac and so if your personal apps are being mirrored onto your iPhone at work, there could be information about your personal apps that stays on the Macs. Now we’re going to link to an article on Mac rumors. I ran the terminal command that they suggest, which tells you how to find which apps have these caches, and nothing turned up. And that’s probably because I’m on Sequoia 15.1 on my iMac, where I’m using this, and it might have been the 15.0 where this was a possibility. So maybe Apple’s already fixed this.
Josh Long 21:37
Well, that’s a good point. We know that Apple is planning to do something to fix this, because the company that discovered this potential privacy issue, Sevco, said that they alerted Apple to this privacy concern, and the company, meaning Apple, is reportedly working on a fix. So it’s not available yet, but probably coming in. The point one release for MacOS Sequoia, the official dot one release. The official dot one release, right? And so it may already that that fix may have already been rolled into the beta as possibly which could explain why Kirk is not not seeing this. But so the specific issue here, the reason why this is a potential privacy concern, is that, basically, your employer, if they are running software on your computer, like mobile device management software, which is very, very common. You know, most Company issued hardware is probably going to be remotely managed by the IT department in like, let’s say, like a medium to large size business, it’s almost a guarantee you’re going to have some kind of mobile device management solution that they’re using, and so that potentially gives them the ability to see all the apps that are currently installed on your device. The reason why this is a potential privacy issue is if you’re using a personal iPhone and mirroring it to your company Mac, then that could reveal the apps that you have mirrored from your personal device to your Mac. So just something to be aware of in the short term. Again, this is supposedly going to be fixed in an upcoming Mac OS Sequoia update.
Amazon has refreshed its Kindle lineup
Kirk McElhearn 23:11
Okay, I want to briefly talk about another update that just came out today. Amazon is updating its Kindle lineup, which is the first time in quite a while that they’ve updated multiple Kindles. And the coolest thing is they have a color Kindle now. I think this can do like, 4000 colors now, and the Kindles use E Ink, right? It’s this thing where there’s little tiny beads that flip, or something like that. And this, I don’t know how the technology works, but they’ve got this color thing. And what it does is it gives you color book covers, which isn’t that big a deal, but also color photos. If there’s photos in books that you’re reading like I don’t know if you’re reading a history book that has photos and maps, things like that, you can do colored highlights. I don’t know if a lot of listeners use Kindles. I read an awful lot on my Kindle. I’d say half the books I read are on Kindle and half are actual books. So I’m really excited to have a new Kindle that does something a little bit differently. They’re also updating the Kindle scribe, which I really like. It’s like the big Kindle. I don’t use it for note taking features, but they’re adding more and they’ve updated the other basic Kindles. I just think the idea of a color Kindle is so cool, because the one thing about the Kindle since the very beginning, and they’re always so drab that the initial ones that didn’t have backlighting, which is gray, black text on gray background. And even with the backlighting, it’s just drab, and having a little bit of color makes a difference. Now it’s pretty expensive. I think it’s $280 or something. So it’s like, if you’re a Kindle user, and you know what, the Paperwhite Signature Edition. It’s like the Signature Edition, but more. I think it’s $80 more than the Signature Edition. It’s not cheap, but I think the idea of a color Kindle is a big step toward the future. If you care about Kindles.
Josh Long 24:51
Yeah, really nice product line, not for everybody. I’m just fine if I’m gonna read something. I don’t mind doing it on my Mac or my iPhone. So, but. Definitely a lot of heresy.
Kirk McElhearn 25:01
Heresy. You can’t read an ebook on a Mac. I mean, you can, but it’s no fun. I find the iPhone screen too small because of my eyesight, I need the fonts to be bigger. And the thing I like about the Kindle is it’s a single use device. There’s no notifications, there’s no temptation to look at social media. I could sit with my Kindle and read and not be bothered. And the other good thing about the Kindle is you can use it indoors and outdoors. Now, when I got my m4 MacBook Pro early this year, I noticed that if I was sitting outside in the shade, I could read on it. And this wasn’t the case with previous iPads that weren’t quite as bright. But it’s still not the same. The Kindle is small and white. It has, I think they’re saying the color one has eight weeks charge, and the paper White has 12 weeks. So it’s, I just like the idea of a single use device. I wish it was a little bit cheaper. You found a story about porch pirates that you really like.
Thieves are porch pirating new AT&T iPhone deliveries
Josh Long 25:55
Yeah I wanted to make sure we cover this because I thought this was such an interesting story. So the headline is, porch pirates are stealing AT&T iPhones delivered by FedEx. So immediately I was interested in this story, because, well, at least here in the United States, this seems to be a kind of a big problem where a lot of packages tend to get stolen. We’re especially Now we’re entering the soon to be Black Friday and all the holiday sales season. So we’re gonna see a lot of packages being delivered. And so this is something that people really need to be aware of. So according to this story, specifically, if you ordered an iPhone through AT&T, which AT&T apparently, always delivers their iPhones through FedEx. They’ve chosen to not require a signature upon delivery. And somehow, people who like to steal iPhones have discovered that there’s some sort of loophole or some sort of back end system that they’ve been able to access. Maybe it’s an inside job. Maybe they know somebody at AT&T or FedEx, or some intermediary shipping management company that apparently knows when and where AT&T iPhones are going to be delivered. And so they’ve, according to this story, they’ve even seen cases where, according to like, somebody’s doorbell camera, somebody delivers the iPhone from FedEx, and seconds later, somebody else walks up to the porch and grabs the iPhone right off of the porch, right right behind the FedEx delivery person dropping it off. So this is a problem. It’s apparently happening all across the United States. Kirk mentioned this may not happen in every country. You’re not likely to see this, for example, in the UK, but certain items from certain shippers may not require signature on delivery, including some expensive items like an iPhone. So just something to be aware of.
Kirk McElhearn 27:59
What I find interesting is that the article says that AT&T is particularly vulnerable because they don’t require signature on delivery. I can’t imagine someone delivering $1,000 iPhone and not requiring either signature or handed to resident. One of the delivery companies I use when they give you a package, they take a picture of you holding the package. If they leave it in front of the door, they take a picture in front of the door. I ordered bird food recently, so they left it in front of the door. But for an iPhone, they take a picture of you holding the iPhone, not your face, but the box showing where you are, and they have the GPS coordinates, obviously in the photo.
Josh Long 28:39
According to the Wall Street Journal, signatures in the in the United States, signatures are legally required for shipments of alcohol, dangerous goods, hazardous materials and pharmaceuticals, for other types of goods, the shipper, in this case, it would be AT and T typically decides whether to offer a signature option, which costs the shipper around $7.15 extra per delivery. So apparently, 18 T is so cheap they don’t want to spend the seven bucks to make sure that porch pirates aren’t going to be able to walk right behind a FedEx delivery person. So that’s kind of crazy.
Kirk McElhearn 29:11
Or there are fewer than one stolen iPhone for every 140 delivered, which balances out the $7 All right, that’s enough for this week. Next week, we should know when Apple is going to do their end of October event. They usually announce this about a week or 10 days before. So until next week. Josh, stay secure.
Josh Long 29:28
All right, stay secure.
Voice Over 29:31
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